Church baits men with football

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Here’s a new entry into the ‘ends justify the means’ category, football themed church service. That’s right, in an attempt to bring more men in for church service, this New Jersey church had football banners hanging in the lobby, sanctuary and from the ceilings, a tailgate party with the usual stuff like sandwiches and hot dogs, men wearing jerseys, women shaking pom-poms, ex-NFL players and of course stadium waves.

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Effective? Well Michael Carrington, someone who’s not a churchgoer, has some interesting comments about that. “There’s more to it that just a church service,” he said in his Lynn Swann jersey. “A lot of people can get bored during a service, but this brings a sense of excitement” he went on to say, and I’m sure it was exciting but what exactly does all this have to do with Christianity? Well nothing really, it’s just a stunt to get men into church. When asked why he does it, the pastor simply said, “men like football.” Well you know what else men tend to like? Free beer and strippers have to be near the top. So if putting on a show that has nothing to do with Christianity is just fine since it’ll bring men into church, then what’s wrong with free beer and strippers? I bet that’ll cause a spike in the collections for that service, although it may take time uncrumpling all those dollar bills.

Pole Dance Competition

Ok, so let’s get back to using football to bait people into attending your event. If it’s ok for a church, does that mean it’s ok for ANY organization?

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Klanboys

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And that’s how ‘ends justify the means’ works. If you’re on board with the church using the bait of football but not these others, than you’re a believer in the ends justifying the means.

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19 Responses to “Church baits men with football”

  1. I don't see anything wrong with the ends justifying the means so long as the means are within the allowance of the legal system and as long as the legal system is decided by the people whom it represents (in our case it should be everybody over 18 who gets to decide the laws).

    Anyhow, I wouldn't mind going to Church if there were strippers.

  2. Churches have been using gimmicks to draw people forever. This particular take on a football Sunday may be new, but churches have been having Super Bowl parties in the gyms/fellowship rooms for years: big-screen TV, lots of food, everything but beer. Remember the <a href"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_movement">70s Jesus Movement? Maybe not – it may have been before your time. I remember it; it was something like hippie culture without drugs and sex (although, truth be told, I think they only did marginally better at limiting illicit drug use than at limiting pre-marital sex, and they didn't do very well at all with the latter (some things never change)). Lame, I know, but a lot of baby boomers bought into it. Same thing with Christian rock music. In that case, the music was/is usually more Christian than rock. That's still a a multi-billion dollar industry, so someone's still buying into it. Christian summer camps – get the kiddies out of the foul, sinful cities into the fresh, clean air of the countryside/wilderness – are intensive proselytizing gimmicks that have been going on for nearly a century. Tax/financial planning seminars have been offered – to non-members as well as members – for a couple of decades. Churches use all sorts of tricks to get people to venture inside their doors.

  3. If the means are already justified, then there's no issue, is there?

    I remember a guy in college who was a sucker for buy one get one free offers. It didn't matter what it was, he'd buy it because he was getting a "deal". Another guy explained how he was being silly by saying, "two of shit is still shit, and if they really wanted to fuck you, they'd give you three." The thing is, if a gimmick is necessary to make a sale, then that's an admission of the lack of appeal of the product, no?

  4. Churches have been using gimmicks to lure people forever. Remember the Jesus Movement? Maybe not – it may have been a bit before your time. I remember it – it was supposed to be a faux hippie culture without drugs and sex, and with rock-style music. Truth be told, they didn't do all that well at reducing pre-marital sex (what else is new?) and only did marginally better at limiting illicit drug use.

    Did you ever go to a Christian summer camp? Get the kiddies out of the foul, sinful cities into the fresh, clean air of the countryside/wilderness and preach at them all week.

    This particular football Sunday may have had its own unique twist, but churches have been having Super Bowl parties for years – big screen TVs, food…no beer, though.

    What does all this have to do with Christianity? It's about getting people into the building, surrounding them with Christians, and getting opportunities to preach to them. It's about making the gospel "relevant" to what the churched see as the needs and interests of the unchurched. It's about selling Christianity as a normal way of life, i.e., Christians are normal people who like football, rock music, camping, etc. – they're not just geeks with their noses stuck in their Bibles all day. In the end, it's about using any means deemed necessary to bring more sheep into the fold. And, yes, it is ends justifies the means thinking.

  5. Football takes place on Sunday, has many worshippers who practice set rituals, and it often doesn't deliver on its promises. Its adherents pray for miracles, and frequently follow their gut-feelings, rather than logic. So it's already a religion, closely allied — in the United States — with Christianity.

    So where's "the-ends-justifies-the-means" thinking in a church that chooses to openly merge what's covertly merged already?

  6. I don't know what promises football makes, but the proclivity for rituals, prayers and so forth does make it a nice match for Christianity I guess. The passion for playing dress up makes it a nice option for the terrorists and the Klan, too.

  7. Is Christian summer anything like Indian summer?

  8. As in Christianity, football faithers have several days of worship from which to choose (Saturday for NCAA fans, Sunday and Monday for NFL fans – sometimes both NCAA and NFL on Thursdays). Or, if one is really devout, one can spend the entire weekend, and at least two weeknights, in the worship venue(s) of one's choice.

    Football is also polytheistic. Some of the faithful worship the gods Manning, some worship the gods Brady, Brees, Favre and Rivers; some curse the demons Cutler and Flacco, and so on.

    As for food, notwithstanding the outstanding quality of many Christian pot luck dinners, football churches generally have better food; the burnt offerings are delicious and the opportunities for drunkenness abound.

  9. "Buy one get one free" is still a better deal than "buy two get one half off" though :>

  10. haha, I never thought about it that way before. I don't know, though. To me, it's more about marketing. If a store has a Black Friday sale for a $5 LCD television, but they only have one in stock, it's pretty deceptive, but it works to get people in their store! At least the church is upfront about what they are doing: trying to get men in the doors so they can hopefully rope them into staying.

    If NAMBLA wanted to run a camp, they could, but probably nobody would allow their child to attend.

  11. Nobody should allow their man to go to church, either.

  12. The church is a business and is subject to the principle of supply and demand just like everything else is, except that the church creates demand in a malicious fashion, the church does the whole parasite thing where it controls people's minds in order to get them to contribute time and money to the church and gives essentially nothing in return besides undue status in society (the whole "I'm a good poor christian" thing is losing it's wow-power though, people should rather go for the whole "I'm a wealthy entreprenuer" thing instead).

  13. Every business creates demand. Some create it where there is none, whereas others create more demand than there should be. Like it or not, churches supply an existing demand, a demand for escapism and woo, but like a good business, they smartly find ways to increase demand. Football services may well work for them.

  14. Football services may well work for them.

    One of the primary strategies of megachurch pastors is to appeal to men. The reasoning is that, if they get the men involved, the women and children will come too. The pews of churches that don't specifically target men are often filled with women and young children, and few or no men. Churches with a good number of men are usually filled with a good balance of people from all age groups.

  15. Nice one, Philly.

  16. You know, I’ve always supported the conversion of churches into neighborhood sports bars. Beer and wings. yummmmmm.

    Of course, they’d have to get rid of those wooden pews, get some comfortable seating that makes you want to stay. Also, some large flat panel TVs situated around the church.

  17. I know of a church that was purchased by a hotel and had its chapel transformed into a ballroom. Makes sense – once all the pews are removed, one has a nice big space for a dance floor.

  18. If you’re on board with the church using the bait of football but not these others, than you’re a believer in the ends justifying the means.

    The ends sometimes do justify means. For instance, you can cut back on beer and Cheetos and save up some money for a jacket, because it’s getting cold. The problem comes when the ends really don’t justify the proposed means. Like, for example, living in peace by slaughtering all who disagree.

    In this case, however, I don’t even see the end that would justify anything. The church gets money and offers bogus comfort and hope. People stop coming, and they use new gimmicks to draw people back, so they continue to get money. In other words, more toasties! What do people (parishioners) get out of this, and why do they keep defending this crap?

  19. They should have to think about this new style of the hunting that what they are having in their minds about the football. With that they are using the humanity as bait. Hope we will get the reasonable solution of it.

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